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Post by mystimayhem on Jan 16, 2007 0:01:30 GMT
This is the second time this WEEK this has happened to me. Someone puts ten dollars in me, and a few days later they take it out. Someone else puts ten dollars in, then takes it out. They leave no e-mail, or explanation for this. This is an open letter to ALL BELIEVERS- Please don't do this to any artist on Sellaband. It is my firm belief that your account should be suspended for this kind of behavior. Make sure you want to invest your money before you Believe, or don't Believe at all. And if you think you are helping to encourage new artists by shuffling your money around, you are mistaken. Thank you for your time. ~M~
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Post by EmpireOfOne on Jan 16, 2007 0:19:17 GMT
As a believer I think it is critical that I be able to remove funds 'just in case'. But I would like to see a 1 week firm period, meaning if you buy a part, it has to stay there for at least a week before you can take it out. That way, people won't push that "believe" button unless they are pretty sure that they mean it.
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Post by mandyandjake on Jan 16, 2007 0:57:47 GMT
Hey Misty dont sweat it. Jake always got money taken away. at lest 1000 bucks worth over all. Dont take it personal. its hard though for sure.no one leaves a message why exept for one and and he had a good reason:) Anyways. It was such a bummer but just look at it this way. It gives more believers a chance to buy into you.
Comming from people who have been through it dont worry girl. You will make it to the top:) we are all rooting for you.
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Post by vegasdragons on Jan 16, 2007 2:52:42 GMT
This has not happened to Vegas Dragons yet but I am sure it is only a matter of time and when it happens I will know who they are and what they have removed because I try to keep very accurate accounts of my Believers and their "parts". I am very grateful for anyone who invests in Vegas Dragons but I do wish there was a Believer BLOCK button on my page because there are 3 Believers that I would NOT like to see on the list of Believers. I do not believe in "Chop and changing" of parts at a whim. I don't think Believers understand just how it can affect the artists motivation and mental state to see parts be removed and their budget decrease. Every time I see a Believer add a part to Vegas Dragons I feel on top of the world. To have that support suddenly removed would devestate me. I have seen it done by a few so called "Believers" on a regular basis. They act as if they are just throwing around their parts like casino chips on a roulette wheel. Changing their parts around like they are bits of plastic. Having said that I support Lucretia removing parts in an artist that has not been seen in months. If they cared about Sellaband they would CHECK IN at least once a week. I check in five times a day but if you don't check in once a fortnight - then you don't care anymore as far as I am concerned. I am a Believer and I have not yet removed a part from any artist I have supported. Though I must admit that the moment is drawing close for one artist on my books ONLY because that artist has not been seen for a LONG time and has not even bothered to get back to me and my message that warns him to respond to me by 11th Jan. If he does not care about Sellaband - I will be puttting my part in him into the coolest French band listed on Sellaband !!! However a part from this rare case, I consider my money invested for life in an artist!
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Post by mystimayhem on Jan 16, 2007 2:59:21 GMT
Thank you Mandy and Jake. Thanks for easing my mind.
"This has not happened to Vegas Dragons yet but I am sure it is only a matter of time and when it happens I will know who they are and what they have removed because I try to keep very accurate accounts of my Believers and their "parts"." -Thank you for the outlook, you have a great point here...
You are a step ahead of me, Brian... I have begun to do exactly that. Afterall, this is a business like any other.... a "Bet"... a crazy one.
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Post by vegasdragons on Jan 16, 2007 3:17:41 GMT
Yes but you are a sure thing. The Vegas Dragon parts in Mysti will certainly change but they will be only going up, up ,up!!!!
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darthkoala
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Post by darthkoala on Jan 16, 2007 6:04:23 GMT
Being able to remove parts from an artist is for me essential, as is the ability to withdraw entirely from the site, for those parts which are not invested in an artist who has reached the goal. The point being, the money is mine. How I invest it is my choice. I should have optimum capability to determine that choice, and should that choice change over time, I should be able to re-invest my money, or sell-out. Now, specifically on SellaBand, I rarely if ever remove parts from an artist, but there are two artists who are now very close to having their parts removed since I haven't heard from either since I believed in them. Sad but true.
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Post by vegasdragons on Jan 16, 2007 6:10:24 GMT
Very, very sad!!
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Post by darthkoala on Jan 16, 2007 6:36:59 GMT
Yeah.. now I have to disbelieve Vegas... oh wait.. you *are* active
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Post by darthkoala on Jan 16, 2007 6:37:20 GMT
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Post by vegasdragons on Jan 16, 2007 7:53:13 GMT
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Post by darthkoala on Jan 16, 2007 12:13:21 GMT
*pat pat* There there, Vegas... DarthKoala is still there, so it ain't over yet. Have a cookie! *throws the Dragon a DarkSide Chocolate Cookie*
'When DarthKoala leaves, it's all over'.
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Post by kirt on Jan 16, 2007 16:32:00 GMT
Hello everybody, I think believers should be able to take out their money if they wish without having to explain themselves. Its part of the concept:you dont make a final decision.Your money is not gone forever.Its dynamic, you can even get it back if you want.No risks.This is a great motivation for new believers to invest their hard earned cash. I am certain not as many people would have invested if this wouldnt be the case. If their investments would be gone forever with a person or band they dont know, who arent necessarily serious about what they do. It takes alot to put your money into people you have never even met in person. It is the believers right and I respect that right.
I had this experience too with believers.Even several times with one believer. Money in, money out, money in, money out. I was also confused about the motives, but then again I thought to myself:yes, for some people it is a gamble and that is cool too. They are still contributing to the success of this site and the artists and they are enjoying sellaband in their way.Why not? I dont expect every believer to be a disciple of Kirt. If they want to be:cool. If they see it as a long term investment for their money:cool too. If they like to gamble:let them gamble. Kirt ;-)
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Post by netvalar on Jan 16, 2007 16:40:38 GMT
I agree there should be a period of time that is firm though 1 week may be too long. Many other businesses do make you wait for funds to clear between 24 hrs and 19 bus days. I would accept the 24 hr or even 2 bus days. However I agree that if for some unforseen reason I wanted to take my belief elsewhere I should be able too. All that being said I plan to keep all those artists I believe in. At this time not to bad as I have only invested in a few and only 1 part each but in the forseeable future I will prob add many more artists and more parts in some of them. When the time comes where I am adding more parts to individual artists it will prob be based on thier activity here or elswhere along with my faith and trust in them.
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Post by mystimayhem on Jan 16, 2007 18:40:29 GMT
I was just speaking from an artist's perspective.
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